Monday, October 28, 2013

Elohim - The Plural Form (Gen. 1:26)

In Genesis 1:26, it is claimed by trinitarian dogma that God is having a conversation with Jesus.

There is nothing in Genesis that proves God is speaking with Jesus. That God is speaking with someone else is true, however, one would have to prove that it is Jesus God is speaking with, where trinitarian dogma teaches Jesus is the co-creator of the original creation.

Elohim
As far as Elohim? If Elohim means “Gods” in Genesis 1:1 (where the verb is singular, “He,” not “they created”) how does one explain Psalm 45:6 where the Messianic king, a singular person, is addressed as Elohim? Why is Moses Elohim (Ex. 7:1)? Was he a plural person? Dagon is called Elohim (I Sam. 5:7), is he more than one god? So is Chemosh called Elohim (Jud. 11:24) and Baal in I Kings 18:24.
In Genesis 1:26, God (elohim) speaks to another person who is not himself, saying, “Let us…” or “Let’s”. If I say to my friend, “Let us go to the Mall,” I am not saying that the person I am speaking to is another person of myself.

As well stated, the idea that God is speaking to Himself (allegedly as two different persons of Himself) has to be imagined, assumed, added to, and read into what the scripture actually says, and such has to be assumed only to conform to preconceived doctrine, which also has to be imagined, assumed, added to, and read into, each and every scripture that is used to allegedly support the extra-Biblical doctrine.

How would one explain that over 11,000 times the singular pronouns tell us God is a single person? Thousands of times when the Bible speaks of God in the third person it reads “He” or “Him” or “his.”

If we go to verse 27 it reads,
So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God created HE him; male and female created HE them.
It never says God is three. Again, how can one dismiss thousands and thousands of verses that speak of God with singular personal pronouns and singular verbs?

God was talking with someone else for sure, but it doesn’t say He was talking with Jesus, nor does it say Jesus was active in the original creation.  In fact, God said he created the world by Himself,
Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF; (Isaiah 44:24) 
and Jesus reiterated,
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 
Jesus did not say “we” made them male and female. 

If Jesus were teaching something new (the trinity dogma) to the Jews (himself a Jew), he missed another opportunity of setting the record straight that he is also God. (YHWH)

The first of all the commandments is:
Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Someone responded,
El is the Hebrew name for God. Elohim is the plural form. The name itself indicates a plurality within God.
The word “elohim” can mean either plural “gods” or singular “god” The point trying to be made here is that there is nothing in the word elohim that means a “plurality of individuals,” anymore than its use of Moses in Exodus 7:1. God said to Moses: “See, I have made thee a god [ELOHIM] to Pharaoh.” No one would say Moses is a plurality of individuals. There is nothing in that word that identifies a “plurality of individuals.” 

We should also note that elohim in the plural means “gods” — not persons. Thus the argument that its plural usage means a trinity would tend to mean that there are three gods, not three persons in one God, as is claimed for the trinity doctrine.

The creed of the Jews and what Jesus also confirmed is, 
“Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God, the Lord is ONE.”  Not three.

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